The reference call question that cannot be rehearsed

Vendor-supplied references are selected, prepared and generally honest, which is what makes them nearly useless. Four questions that produce information anyway, and one that does not work.

By Samuel Edwards — Chief Marketing Officer

A vendor reference is a customer who was chosen because they are happy, told in advance what the call is about, and is going to tell you the truth. All three of those are true at once, and the third is what makes the first two so effective. Nobody has to lie for a reference call to be uninformative.

We supply references too, and we select them the same way everyone does. So treat what follows as a description of how to get past our preparation as much as anyone else’s. Most ERP vendor evaluation processes never get this far, because the standard reference-check questions are the wrong instrument.

The question that does not work

"What would you do differently?" It is the most-recommended question in every buying guide and it reliably produces a rehearsed answer, because it is the most-recommended question in every buying guide. The reference has answered it before. Usually the answer is "we would have committed more internal resource earlier", which is both true and free of information. It is the single weakest step in most ERP selection process design, precisely because everyone already knows to ask it.

How hard each question is to rehearse
“What would you do differently?” answered before, on autopilot “Walk me through your last month-end, in order” gaps show immediately “What is still in a spreadsheet?” feels like an admission “Who did you call when something broke?” needs a name, not a process “What did you have to change?” “nothing” is itself an answer
Illustrative, not measured — the ordering follows the post's own claims about which answers come pre-packaged and which force an honest one. “What would you do differently” has a stock answer; the specific ones don't.

Four that do

  • "Walk me through your last month-end, in order, with the times." Not whether the close got faster — the actual sequence. What runs, what waits, who is waiting for it. A close that genuinely works can be narrated without effort. One that does not produces a description with gaps, and the gaps are where the spreadsheets live.
  • "What is still in a spreadsheet?" There is always something. The useful part is whether they can tell you why, and whether the why is a deliberate decision or a workaround that calcified. This question is hard to prepare for because the honest answer feels like an admission and is not one.
  • "Who at the vendor did you talk to when something was actually broken, and how long did that take?" The name matters more than the duration. A reference who names an individual is describing a support relationship. One who says "we raised a ticket" is describing a process, which is fine, but it is a different product experience than the one being sold to you.
  • "What did you have to change about how you work?" Every implementation forces process change somewhere. A reference who reports none either had unusually aligned processes or is describing a system that was customised into a copy of the old one — and the second is worth knowing about, because it is 14% of the stalled implementations in our sample.
One thing a bad reference call misses
14%Over-customised… Over-customised into old system14% Every other cause86%
From the same 41-implementation sample: customisation that quietly turned the new system into a copy of the old one. A reference who reports zero process change is one way this surfaces.

Ask for the reference you were not offered

The stronger move is orthogonal to the questions: ask for a customer in your industry, at your size, who went live in the last eighteen months, and see what happens. This one request tells you more about real-world vendor reference checks than the entire scripted call that follows it.

Sometimes there is not one, which is an answer. Sometimes there is one and they were not offered, which is a more interesting answer. The response to the request is more informative than most of the call that follows it.

The reference list is a selected sample. The question worth asking is what it was selected from.
The evaluation sequence, in order of signal strength
Ask the rehearsed question low signal Ask the four specific questions instead medium-high signal Ask for a reference you weren't offered highest signal Watch how they respond to that ask the real answer
Each step is strictly more informative than the one before it — and the last one is the one most buyers never take.

What this looks like pointed at us

Applied to erp.io, that request exposes real things: we have no vertical specialists for industries we have not worked in, our references skew toward companies that were replacing small-business accounting rather than a mid-market ERP, and we cannot produce a local partner in your city because we do not have one. Those constraints are on the team page because they are the ones that lose us work honestly.

The rest of the evaluation sequence — getting a long list down to three, and building a total cost of ownership that is not fiction — is in the selection guide and the TCO guide. How we score products, and why we rank ourselves fourth on our own directory, is in the editorial policy. Treat all of it as a software evaluation checklist, not a sales conversation — the format only works if you run it the same way for every vendor.

The four questions above are aimed at surfacing exactly the failure modes we see most often: data that turns out to be worse than assumed, decisions that stall because nobody owns them, and once the system is live, a close that never gets faster or an agent that has been allowed to do more than it should. A good reference will have opinions about all four.

A good reference call will also have opinions on problems that show up later than go-live: how many custom fields their implementation added without a review process, whether their consolidated close was designed before the first entity migrated or discovered afterward, how their integrations resolve a field two systems both tried to change, and whether their chart of accounts was redesigned or just copied over.

Samuel Edwards — Chief Marketing Officer

Samuel Edwards is Chief Marketing Officer at erp.io. He has spent 15+ years in technical SEO, content strategy and demand generation, running paid and organic operations for organisations ranging from venture-backed startups to Fortune 500 companies, and has spoken at the Search Marketing Expo series and on the TEDx stage.

He came to business software the way most marketers do not: by watching how finance and operations teams actually evaluate it. These buyers do not read brochures. They search for the specific failure they had at last quarter's close, they read until they find someone describing it accurately, and they form a view long before anyone in sales hears their name. That is why this blog has no gated downloads, no lead-capture forms in the middle of a post, and pages that state plainly what erp.io does not do.

His argument internally is simple: in a category where the buyer is closer to the work than the seller is, the only durable marketing position is to be accurate. Sam writes here about operations software as it is practised rather than as it is pitched — the configuration decisions that quietly determine whether an implementation holds, the seam between the ledger and everything feeding it, and what bad data costs when nobody is measuring it.

Who you actually work with is on the team page.

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